Hating Religion, Loving Jesus: The Importance of Words

Zack —  January 13, 2012 — 14 Comments

 

 

After reading through several comments from yesterday’s “Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus” post, I thought a bit of follow up was needed.

I’ll elaborate more on my issues with “sola fide” later. Today, I want to talk about the importance of words.

One comment that came up time and time again yesterday was that Jeff Behtke, the poet in the video, meant something other than the actual definition of “religion” when he said he hated religion. The idea being that “today’s generation” (of which both he and I are members) really means “legalism” when they/we say “religion.”

I agree, that the word “religion” is often used today in connection and even sometimes interchangeably with “legalism”. However, at least in the case of this video that defense is like a barrel with no bottom. It holds not water.

Here’s why….

Bethke is a poet. Whether you dabble in this art or master it like Emerson and Thoreau you don’t choose words haphazardly. So, to claim Bethke uses the word “religion” arbitrarily, or worse, that his only understanding of that word is its slang variant is to imply that he is either ignorant or illiterate. While I’m not the biggest fan of his poetry, I have to believe that Bethke is more than aware of the meaning of the words he chooses, particularly when those words are spoken in the context of a subject so obviously important to him.

Furthermore, if we try to play the “words don’t mean what everyone has agreed they mean” card, then we might as well go ahead and toss out not only the dictionary, but language itself. If words have no set, agreed upon meaning, then communication is impossible.

For example, imagine going to McDonalds and ordering a cheeseburger and french fries. If words have no set meaning, then you have no way of knowing what guy at the drive-thru is actually going to give you. Instead of a cheeseburger and french fries you’re just as likely to get a rock and ball of string if the meaning of the words “cheeseburger” and “french fries” is completely relative. (Although to be fair, sometimes the cheeseburger and fries do taste like a rock and string.) Those words might describe food to you, but if context determines definition and the drive-thru guy doesn’t share your personal context then we need to ditch the microphone/speaker setup and start handing the cashier drawings of what we would like to eat.

Either words have agreed upon meanings and limits to those meanings or words are meaningless.

Finally, the old, tired argument “you don’t know his heart” is complete and utter nonsense. It was Jesus himself who said “But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart.” (Matt. 15:18) We can only “know someone’s heart” through their words and deeds. If Bethke’s heart is not displayed in this video then why in the world did he take the time to write the poem, arrange a film shoot, film his performance, edit the film, and then post it all on YouTube?

Once again, if someone speaks, but the meaning of their words can be something different than the meaning that has been attributed to those words by society, then communication through either the spoken or written word is impossible.

So, we are left to take Bethke at his word. That is to say, all we can respond to or critique are the words he chose to use.

Those words are quite clear. He hates religion. And his description of religion, that it “build[s] huge churches”, preaches things to people, and provides “behavior modification” sounds pretty spot on to the collectively held definition of the word.

No doubt the popular mythos of a “personal relationship with Jesus Christ” is powerful. However, as others have pointed out here (and here), that phrase appears no where in the Bible.

That is not to say I think relationship is unimportant. It’s essential. For me, it is through my relationships with other Christians that my belief in a resurrected Jesus is affirmed.

It is true that Jesus didn’t come to establish a new religion. It’s also true that he didn’t come to abolish religion either. When he hung on the cross and cried “it is finished”, he wasn’t talking about religion. No biblical scholar I’ve ever heard of would support that thesis.

What was finished was Jesus’ struggle to breathe as his lungs collapsed under the weight of his own body. What was finished was his earthly life and ministry.

What was beginining was a new faith, dare I say, I new religion. The old way of Judaism wasn’t abolished, but as Jesus himself said, it was fulfilled when he walked out of the tomb on Easter Sunday.

What was beginning was a religion based on grace and a risen Savior. That religion was and continues to be a very good thing.

Grace and peace,

Zack Hunt

Zack

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  • http://www.joshshope.com Josh

    PREACH.

  • sloan

    You have formed a cogent argument that I appreciate. Well done sir, well done.

  • http://morganguyton.wordpress.com Morgan Guyton

    The reason that America has “great big churches that don’t care about poor people” is not because we’ve been overly focused on the rituals of religion, but because we’ve made “personal relationship” into a consumer product that really isn’t even a personal relationship so much as a personal fixation on a celebrity Jesus who’s represented by celebrity Christians and is experienced within the weekly catharsis of singing and clapping in a stadium with a thousand other people and then having your heart-strings pulled by a masterful public speaker for 45 minutes.

    In such an environment, what designates a person as “Christian” is having the “right” political and theological doctrines. If that’s what makes you Christian, you remain un-rescued from the need to be right, which I would call self-justification. This is the pernicious human tendency that Jesus came to save us from.

    Bottom line is I would support what this guy is saying in the video if he substituted the word “doctrine” for “religion.” http://morganguyton.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/why-i-hate-doctrine-but-love-jesus-response-to-a-similarly-named-video/

  • Lindsey

    I am furiously forwarding this article to everyone I know. Thank you! Wrote a similar response on blog.

  • http://thewholedangthing.wordpress.com JBen

    Thanks for the clarifications. I had some interesting conversation on my facebook page around your post. Much of it stemmed from things that you bring up here.

    Today I read an Orthodox pastor’s response to the video. He went line by line through it. good stuff. http://roadsfromemmaus.org/2012/01/12/why-i-love-true-religion-because-i-love-jesus/

  • http://www.paulaharrington71.blogspot.com Paula Harrington

    Thanks for your writings on this. I think his words were chosen very carefully to get the full effect. He definitely touched a nerve proving that people care and desire to know Christ. True religion matters and can change the world. False religion infuriates.

  • LisaMarie

    I guess I believe that communication is impossible then, because I definitely think that words like “religion” don’t necessarily have concrete meanings. “Cheeseburger” is a different story, but “religion” is not a physical object, so I can accept that its definition could be somewhat abstract. Postmodernism strikes again!

    On another note, while I think you make good points on some things in these posts, your tone comes across as quite arrogant. I mean, I don’t know your heart, but…

  • Monica

    Hi Zack, So if I’m reading your post correctly, you don’t think that a “personal relationship with Jesus” is legit (or not as important as relationships between believers) because these words don’t appear in the Bible? Please correct me if my inference is wrong, and I’d really like to be wrong especially since you’re a youth pastor.

    While those words don’t appear in the Bible specifically, Jesus talks about sending the Holy Spirit (who is also God) to live within us, to guide, comfort, and counsel us. If that’s not personal, and not a relationship, i don’t know what is. I’d encourage you to read John 14:15-31.

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  • Shawn Few

    More Bloviating… When do you find time to pray & worship? :)

  • Holly Payne

    @Monica,
    I personally think that you’re misunderstanding what he’s saying. He clearly stated that a personal relationship with Jesus is essential. However, without a relationship with other Christians, how can you truly feel that what you believe is comepletey true. If you knew absolutely no other Christians could you honestly say that you are completely and utterly sure that your Christian beliefs are true or are as strong as they could be. Wouldn’t you have some doubts of your beliefs if you didn’t know anyone else who believed Jesus died on the cross and walked out of his tomb a few days later?

    • Monica

      Holly, That’s actually what I’d like him to clarify — zack wrote “No doubt the popular mythos of a “personal relationship with Jesus Christ” is powerful. However, as others have pointed out here (and here), that phrase appears no where in the Bible.” what he said he was a red flag.

      And I absolutely agree that Christian community is essential, so no arguments there.

  • http://pursuedbytruth.blogspot.com Theresa

    72% of the millenial generation describes themselves as “spiritual but not religious” More than blog posts and critiques of this video, this trend needs to be responded to both aggressively AND compassionately among all Christians. My take on this – this video doesn’t need to be refuted, these kids needs to be engaged. I would love to have a beer with Jeff and have a real dialogue: http://pursuedbytruth.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-i-hate-religion-but-love-jesus-beer.html

  • Peter Kujak

    It’s a wonderful reminder that “life and death are in the power of our words…” Especially for leaders, it is so important how we express ourselves. On the flip side, I have to comment on your statements: “Finally, the old, tired argument “you don’t know his heart” is complete and utter nonsense.” and “That is to say, all we can respond to or critique are the words he chose to use.” You’re entirely missing the boat on that one (In my opinion, anyway). If we don’t discern things and see one another according to the Spirit, then we’re judging carnally and not rightly. Jesus judged in righteousness, and we are transformed to be like him. If you only took Jesus at his words, then you would have the same reaction that the religious leaders (and other disciples) had when he said “eat my flesh and drink my blood.” Jesus often used words that he knew would offend the minds and theology people (even religious people) in order to reveal their hearts. You have to be able to watch a video like this and discern the heart of the one making it. Sure, you can take issue with how he does things. But, if you belong to Christ and have his Spirit, then you will see this man’s heart (as I did) and not get caught up in the “jots and tittles.” Anyone can use the scriptures and “criticism” to find fault with what people say. Can you have love that covers a multitude of sins?