Church Sign: ‘Abortionists Target Black Babies’

Zack —  June 25, 2012 — 13 Comments

 

 

Well, we may have a new candidate for worst church sign of all time.

Now, for full disclosure, I’m not a big fan of abortion. However, I’ve gotta think there are better ways to “take a stand” than irrational, unsubstantiated, and, let’s just be honest, completely insane church signs.

I’m sure this will come as a shock, but, according to the local news, community members around this church aren’t big fans of the sign.

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  • http://maafa21.com/ Timothy Putnam

    Unless it isn’t irrational OR unsubstantiated…

    http://maafa21.com/ is an eye opening (and truly not “sensational”) documentary on the beginnings of Planned Parenthood in the eugenics movement. Don’t discount something just because it is controversial…it just may be true.

    • Zack

      Given socio-economic issues, challenges, and disparities among minorities I wouldn’t be surprised to see a disproportionate amount of abortions among minorities, just like there are a disproportionate amount of minorities in prison.

      However, (in large part because I am married to a OB/GYN resident physician) find it impossible to believe that there is a secret attempt at black genocide among abortionists. Likewise, while I’m not a fan of everything that Planned Parenthood does (although to be fair they do do some good work), I also find it impossible to believe that they had their beginnings, like Hitler, in eugenics.

      For me, such claims are fear mongering and internet rumors based as highly twisted, contorted, and purely coincidental “facts”, much like the infamous video “Loose Change”.

      • http://maafa21.com/ Timothy Putnam

        http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/224136/dark-past/jonah-goldberg

        “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” – George Orwell

        Do the research, don’t dismiss it out of hand.

        • Zack

          “Do the research”

          I know this will sound antagonistic, but I sincerely don’t mean for it to be so, but my wife, along with her countless fellow physicians, have done the research. Which is why they hold M.D.s and Ph.D.s

          I’m not dismissing it out of hand, I’m dismissing it because there is a massive discrepancy between the claims that are made on the internet and the reality that she (and to an obviously lesser extent, me) has experienced in the medical community.

  • Mark

    When did mostly white Southern Baptist and Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches start caring about black people?

    • Zack

      Now that is a great question. :)

  • http://maafa21.com/ Timothy Putnam
    • LizBR

      Are you familiar with the genetic logical fallacy? It means that instead of making a legitimate argument, you plug in the claim that because something’s origins were good or bad, the thing itself must be good or bad.

      It would be like someone getting mad at me for driving a VW Beetle because they were first built for Nazi use.

      That’s what you’re doing here. EVEN IF Margaret Sanger was a eugenicist who wanted to target minorities for extinction (and I’ve still never seen significant evidence from anywhere but pro-life propaganda websites to support this claim), that doesn’t have any hold on Planned Parenthood’s current goals or policies.

  • Melody

    This sign proves they’ve got it backwards. Anti-choicers target black women.

  • Justin

    I have to respond to Tim and his “research”. When you’re quoting the National Review and Michelle Malkin, you are not doing “research”. All you have done is look a bunch of opinions, but you had to search for them. This is an opinion search, not research. Margaret Sanger has become a hot topic with conservatives and she has been demonized with many pseudo-truths. The interesting thing is that people find Planned Parenthood a rallying cry and point to Sanger-she should be your target if you are against the pill, not abortion, because that was what she fought for and why she began what would become Planned Parenthood. Interestingly, abortions account for less than 3% of what Planned Parenthood does. I’d like to see a statistic to see what percent of service men have been killed by “friendly fire” over the past decade (I think it’s more than 3% but I’m not going to search Keith Olbermann’s opinion about it).

    • http://maafa21.com/ Timothy Putnam

      Justin,

      Interestingly enough, I am against “the pill” for a number of other reasons. I post the articles, because they are available with a quick google search. But I have also done the research.

      Margaret Sanger started pushing birth-control 30 years before “the pill” was released. She, like the other eugenicists of her day, was interested in forced sterilization as a means of population control.

      She was personally horrified by the concept of abortion at all, and saw it as a moral evil (at least toward the beginning of her career).

      Read Sanger’s works, she is unabashedly a eugenicist. Let’s quit glorifying her, and condemn her with the rest of the movement.

      • http://www.carisadel.com Caris Adel

        Read the new book, Margaret Sanger, A Life of Passion – a new biography of her. Fascinating book, and very eye-opening about what life was like for women at the turn of the century. Men were getting BC, but not women. Women were forced to be abstinant or have as many children as they could. Birth control was about controlling how many children a family could have. She saw how having many children was hurting poor people and that it was causing abortions. Women were being arrested for even writing about bc, and you couldn’t even win a court case on 1st amendment rights!!!!

        I was appalled and had no idea about any of that. Yes, she was a eugenist, like many, many other people. I don’t see anyone discrediting Churchill, Roosevelt, or Graham Bell b/c of their views on it!

        I think it’s very convienent for people to throw both Sanger and PP under the bus and frame the entire debate as abortion is black and white, and if you are related to the issue at all you are evil. When in actuality the issue is more complex and Sanger and PP address those complexities. But if conservatives addressed those complexities, they would have to lower their battle flags, which they are unwilling to do.

        • grace

          Forget Sanger,Planned Parenthood and all of that. If women and men are going to have sex, then they need to be prepared for consequences. In life there is always a “cause and effect” to our actions. If I get a dog, then I need to be prepared to feed it, take it to the vet, and so on. If I wear clothes, then those clothes need to be laundered, pressed, and so on. If pple have sex, then they need to be aware of what is going to result from that set of actions. We don’t have the right to act irresponsibly and then- OH Crap, I am pregnant, lets destroy a life to erase the consequences of my irresponsibility!